Updated: Dec 31, 2020
Adrienne MacIain 0:01
Hi, everyone, welcome to the that's allowed podcast. This is your hostess Adrienne MacIain. And today we are here with Victoria Davis, Victoria, please introduce yourself.
Victoria Davis 0:12
Hey Adrienne, thanks for having me. Yeah, so good to be here. Um, essentially, you know, what I do is work with coaches who are trying to figure out their passion, essentially, I work with like health and fitness coaches who are in that niche, but really have God-given dreams and don't really know how to manifest those, you know, there's, there's a lot that goes on with that, you know, and I really try to help them, build programs pulled a nice shot of them, and then brand themselves to impact people who they're supposed to serve versus to say, and I'm a health and fitness coach, because I get that I was in that world for a long time. So.
Adrienne MacIain 0:48
So how did that come to be? What was your, sort of, awakening to what you needed to do?
Victoria Davis 0:55
Yeah, so I worked in corporate wellness for a long time as a first health coach. And then I ended up developing programs for corporations, and then consulting and managing those accounts, and then bringing in coaches and hiring them and putting them in there and realizing that each of us, right has a specific purpose and calling but a lot of times, it's really hard to understand what that is one if you don't have experience, and two, if you don't have somebody kind of guiding you, because I think in that, that world, you can easily be all things to all people are try to be, and you know, that's not really going to help you serve the right person, or get really clear on what you want to be doing in the world. And that's kind of how that that came to be is because I had so many people coming to me, not even one knowing what a health coach was, and then to not really knowing what I did. And so I found that I was serving people, because I could do it, you know, I had the skill set, but it didn't mean that it fit right. You know, I had high paying clients that I felt like they're paying me tons of money, and I don't want to show up for them why it wasn't in that vein. And so I really tried to help coaches slow down and get clear on that and then build offerings that really actually makes sense for them and the people that they're supposed to serve.
Adrienne MacIain 2:19
Yeah, absolutely. So what is the story that you're not telling?
Victoria Davis 2:25
Oh, yeah. So, um, gosh, I mean, we could take that so many different ways.
Adrienne MacIain 2:33
Very, it is, it is the most open ended question. And that is why I always start with it.
Victoria Davis 2:39
Yeah, I think that, um, what you and I had kind of chatted about a little bit, like off air was, you know, growing up in a sort of household that was kind of connected to, you know, having a difficult relationship with like a family member, you know, and living out of that place of restriction and manipulation and control. But then, you know, not, you know, faith. For me, faith was like, one of the biggest things that has driven my life, but I saw, like the hypocrisy and negative side, but I also saw the positive side. But, I mean, we could kind of go that route. But if you want to kind of shift it a little bit, I think one of the stories that I'm starting to tell, but not telling so much that there's connection to that stuff, too, is that working in the health industry, you know, for so long, there's this, like, underlying current of performance and health addiction. And you know, and so with that, I think that like one of the stories that I've recently not haven't really told, but I'm starting to tell is that I found my identity and significance in being vegan for 10 years and running like insane trail races, and just you know, and kind of having this platform in the health industry, even though I was helping people, people constantly looking at you, you always have to be on your game. But really, what's the truth that I know I'm not the only one is that so many people in my industry, behind the scenes feel like they have to perform or be a certain way. And it's actually really damaging, and causes a lot of mental problems and emotional problems and health addictions because we tend to be perfect and so yeah, that's kind of the story that I feel like needs to be told at least.
Adrienne MacIain 4:39
Absolutely. I and I feel like those two stories are related to you. Mm hmm. So what do you see where do you see the through line from that growing up in this place of being constantly told? You're not good enough. You know, you have to be perfect, too. Get into heaven or whatever it is. And then there's this. And also that hypocrisy of realizing like, Wait a second, you're saying this but doing this, right? And then feeling like, Okay, if I'm telling people, you know, be healthy, like, I have to be the perfect example. Yeah, I must live my life. Actually.
Victoria Davis 5:22
You know what, it's funny because there's the through line of performance that is so connected to that, right? So I honestly grew up thinking that even though it wasn't being good enough, like you just said, to get into heaven, I, I did grow up with that spirit or whatever you want to call it like a rejection, because I thought that if I'm not good enough, and I don't perform, or I don't have my walls up, then you know, you're going to attack me verbally, or make me constantly feel like I'm doing something wrong, you know, that constant thing of walking on eggshells? And then that translated over into being in a high position, you know, in corporate health and wellness. And when I publicly stated that I was vegan, which was for 10 years took up my life, I don't have a problem with it. But then my bloodwork started saying that this isn't working for you, and you're off, because of that mindset of people are going to reject me, what are people going to say and do and the performance that goes around that? Um, that really kept me stuck and afraid. So, yeah, that's how I connect it.
Adrienne MacIain 6:42
Well, I can deeply relate, because I also was a vegan. I was vegetarian for 10 years and vegan for four of those. And I same thing, I started to get sick, I started to get really sick. And I was in denial. For a long time, I thought, you know, maybe I'm just not being healthy enough. Maybe I'm not exercising enough? Or maybe I'm you know, and it becomes this kind of insanity of trying to be ever more perfectly healthy. And losing more and more ground of your actual wellness.
Victoria Davis 7:17
Right, that, gosh, you're so spot on with that. That's exactly how I felt, you know, it was if I just eat a little bit better, or, you know, I just get really pure and really clean with my ingredients, then I'm doing the right thing. And it really just kept me. Yeah, and bondage and, and fear.
Adrienne MacIain 7:39
Yes. And, and it also makes you feel like, especially when you're traveling or when you're with other people, it makes you feel very anti social. And like you're kind of sanctimonious, and like, you can't relax and just enjoy being with other people. And when they offer you things, you have to constantly reject them. And then there's feels feels like there's this implied judgment to what they've offered you. And so it's just, it's tough. It's really tough.
Victoria Davis 8:07
Yeah, yeah. I completely agree with that.
Adrienne MacIain 8:11
Yeah, one of the things I found so I'll tell you a funny story about how my veganism ended. So I was living in France. And I mean, it's France, okay. And I was staying with this host family, and God bless them. They had no idea how to make vegan food.
Victoria Davis 8:29
Adrienne MacIain 8:30
Yeah. And this is France. So they're making these beautiful, amazing dinners. And then I'm sitting here with like, rice and vegetables every day. And, you know, I got so extreme that I was like, like you said, You know, I started to get sick. And so I started to say, well, maybe I just need raw, like, pure raw, you know, only raw vegetables. And then I went down from that to fruitarian. Wow. Yeah. So I was getting I was getting worse and worse. And finally, so then, you know, my poor host mom is just like, tearing out her hair. Right? Yeah. So she's making me these rice and vegetables every night. And so then, at the end of this day, I'm standing in the kitchen talking to her. And as she's chatting with me, she reaches up and she grabs this little canister, and she throws it in the water. And I was like, what's that? Because it's got a cow on the front. Right? And she's like, "c'est bouillon," like, it's beef bouillon, you know? And I was like, is that... is that my rice? And she's like, "Yeah, what?" So the whole time I had been eating this beef rice. And I had no idea. And I just started laughing so hard, that like, I couldn't breathe. And I fell down on the floor and she was just looking at me like "What is wrong?" And I said, Excuse me, I'll be right back. And I went outside and there was a little fromagerie, a cheese shop, right around the corner. And I went in and I was like, "I would like one of everything, please." And they were like "Ummm" and I was like "Yes. I would like a small slice of every cheese you have." And I made myself so sick, and I didn't care. And I was like, that's it. I'm just gonna eat what feels good to my body. That's the end.
Victoria Davis 10:12
Yeah. I love that. I can totally relate to you on that because mine was, it was weird, because mine was, my desire to shift was because two things like, one, when I was a little kid I was diagnosed with Tourettes syndrome. So we drastically changed my diet from age seven to 10. And then from there, I kind of adopted it. Well, it really helped. It was really great to eliminate processed stuff anyways, all the sugar and soda that I wanted to have as a 10 year old, right? But then adopting that into my life forever, but then not realizing again, subconsciously, there was some restriction involved in that, that I would I felt like what's gonna happen if I have this and then and then having food allergies start to manifest and my skin breaking out because of moves. So then that was what led me to be vegan. So I really placed my healing on veganism. But yeah, the same thing that happened to me in a difference like scenario, I was just over being vegan, but I was also really afraid. And so what happened was is I experienced actually is like, supernatural healing, which was crazy cool. And that was connected to my feminine issues. But after God did that, and it wrecked me emotionally and spiritually. It was just so wonderful.
Adrienne MacIain 11:42
Oh, wait, hold on. That sounds like an amazing story. Can you go into that?
Victoria Davis 11:47
Yeah. So basically, I was at that place to where I didn't want to be vegan anymore. Like, that was a conversation I was having with Him. I just was saying, Lord, I, I'm done. I've held on to this, but I'm putting it above you. I can't, you know, I realized that this is not working. My body's not doing what it needs to do. I couldn't I didn't have my, you know, my feminine cycle. I was barren and all those things. And so I realized the--
Adrienne MacIain 12:15
Same, by the way.
Victoria Davis 12:16
Yeah. So, so detrimental. And then, so I surrendered that. And I didn't know what surrender meant, in that moment. And I was at just a church service where someone came to speak for I was part of a community that I really loved. And this guy was basically saying, "Hey, I really feel like today God is wanting to heal women that have feminine issues," and about four of us stood up and instantaneously, within like five minutes, I just got heat that radiated all over my body. And I started weeping and I couldn't shake it. It didn't manifest right away. But what was crazy is I got to go talk to a friend about it. And I was so high with from that experience. Yeah. And she said, "Oh, that's interesting, because I've had ovarian cysts." And so I said, "Can we pray?" and so we're praying together. And then the next day, my cycle came back, and I just, I don't know, you know, all the steps of that. But that was the first domino and then so that back to the other part, as I say, okay, God, if you can do that, then I'm just gonna believe that you can heal my food intolerances because I want to eat eggs again. And I can I can tolerate being vegetarian to get. And so I just started eating them. And I remember my symptoms would be I would get hot before and just kind of feel achy. Well, that happened for about two to three days. And then all the sudden the symptoms just started to dissipate, because I just kept standing on that and say, No, I believe you. And I'm not going to let this be a reality. And so now, I eat them. And I love them. And there's that.
Adrienne MacIain 14:05
Awesome, I love it. Well we know that the mind and body are one. Right? Yeah. And so you know, it makes perfect sense that your beliefs affect your body. Right? Oh, yeah. So believing I am allergic to this. Of course, you're allergic to that, if you believe that you're allergic to that thing.
Victoria Davis 14:26
Yeah yeah yeah.
Adrienne MacIain 14:28
Yeah. So I'm not saying that, like, if you have a peanut allergy, you just have to decide like, I'm not allergic to peanuts. But at the same time, there is something really powerful and just, like you said, surrendering and saying, I don't want this to be the case anymore.
Victoria Davis 14:42
Adrienne MacIain 14:44
And just letting go of that identity of the allergic person.
Victoria Davis 14:47
Yeah, letting go of the label that it, when you agree with something, like you're saying, it attaches. It has power over you. And I mean, I still am working through what that is every day, you know. But yeah, specifically connected to those things. You know, I would say, I have food intolerances, or using Tourettes Syndrome as a crutch growing up. And it's just, it's super damaging. You're right.
Adrienne MacIain 15:18
Yeah. So we've talked a little bit about sort of where it begins for you. What, and that sounds like it was the sort of climax moment, right? Where you kind of said, All right, I give this up. So the tide started to turn, you're able to eat these things again. What happens, then? Like, what, what did that open up for you in your life?
Victoria Davis 15:43
Yeah, that's a great question. Um, it opened up freedom in new ways, right? So I started to see how wrong I was. And I started to shift my perspective of who God really was and wanted to be for me. So for example, I believed the lie for a long time that he was disappointed in me, and, you know, mad at me. And so I would be, I did that the way that I lived a lot of it a lot of my life was because I felt like if I restricted myself that I would be good enough, even though I never consciously thought that you know, yeah. Now, I know that it's about the journey and being free along the way. And there's no condemnation along that journey. And really living from that space is so empowering, enlightening. Freeing. I mean, it's really allowed me to just experience radical transformation in my health in the way I view it in my relationships, and my career. In all of those areas, it's manifested in crazy ways. I look physically different. You know, I mean, there's a lot of repercussions to that. Absolutely.
Adrienne MacIain 17:14
So what's blocked you from from sharing this story before?
Victoria Davis 17:18
I think there's a lot of things. You know, I think one of the biggest things that's blocked me from sharing it before is that one again, having that fear that people A. wouldn't get it or B. wouldn't understand. Or would reject that. So there's those little lies creeping back up just in a different way. It's a different layer. But yeah, I think the biggest thing is that I've been blocked from sharing it, because I didn't know how to necessarily, one, articulate it, and then also tie the threads together. You know, it was it's kind of been this whole 30 plus year journey of life, to where I didn't really realize that all those beliefs were holding me back. But it's now it's, it's really important. You know, it's, it's, I have to share it because I can't you know, you can't help other people. I can't coach properly unless I've experienced some of the same things that my clients have, right. Like, I can't help them experience breakthrough without sharing what's taught me to be resilient, and what areas I might fall flat on my face in. And so I think that the biggest thing that's blocked me is just feeling like, is this really, of significance? You know, or is this just my story that I feel like, I think there's that side of it, too. I don't want to be arrogant or confident or step up and say things and that's not good, either.
Adrienne MacIain 18:53
Right? Because what about those people out there? Who could learn from your story or benefit from it?
Victoria Davis 18:59
Mm hmm. Yeah, absolutely. And I think, too, one side of that is connected to having a parent who, you know, really, I wanted to love and have a healthy relationship with, but God really had to help me put boundaries up and was just basically showing me: stop throwing yourself in front of the bus, you know, you love her, but it's just not... it's okay, I'm not condemning you and telling you you have to and I think that for a long time, I just didn't want to speak negatively. I just didn't want to speak evil the truth. It was true. I just I didn't want to put it out there because I didn't want to hurt anyone or and I, I think that I was depriving people who really needed to know that. They don't have to do that either. You know?
Adrienne MacIain 19:54
Let's talk about boundaries for a minute. What is a boundary and how did you learn how to set one?
Victoria Davis 20:01
Um, I think boundaries for me, what I've learned that they are in my personal life is that it's it's literally outlining a verbal boundary, right. So by that I mean, I might have decided in my head in my heart that seeing you in person isn't safe. But unless I communicate that, I'll get anxious, and I'll hold on to that. And it'll stew, right? Or, for example, let's say, there's a particular topic of conversation that I really don't want to go into. The boundary that I've learned to put up is to just speak my mind and stand on that truth and say, "Hey, I don't want to go into this conversation. I don't want to talk about this." But I think a lot of times with boundaries, we feel like we have to if we do that, we have to give an explanation.
Adrienne MacIain 20:59
Victoria Davis 21:00
You know, and we have to overshare, and that's not right. It's being able to say, "I'm going to confront you, because I don't like what you're doing. This hurts me. So we're not going to go here anymore." And that doesn't give you, just because you're my family member does not give you the right to come at me or say certain things. And understanding that, you know, they will have to accept it for that boundary to be in place, or like it. So that's kind of what I've learned along the way.
Adrienne MacIain 21:38
So I was just writing a chapter today, I'm working on a new book. And I was just writing a chapter today on boundaries. So this is really big, in my mind. So if you don't mind, I'm going to talk a little bit about
Victoria Davis 21:48
Let's do it. Yeah.
Adrienne MacIain 21:49
Because I think it's something that people don't talk about very often, and don't understand very well. I know I didn't, for a long time, I thought of boundaries, as this very extreme thing. It was like, this is a hard line. And as soon as you cross it, we're done. And I will never speak to you again. And so because of that I had I like prided myself on not having boundaries, that I was very open person, right. I thought boundaries are like, for people who are afraid or whatever it is. That's a complete misunderstanding of what boundaries are and how they work.
Victoria Davis 22:25
Yeah, no kidding!
Adrienne MacIain 22:26
And so what I realized was that boundaries are actually there to keep people to be able to let people in safely. Because when you let people in without boundaries, then they step all over your landmines, and they blow up. And you're like, ah, and you're traumatized. And then you feel like you have to push them away to keep yourself safe. And now you've ruined that relationship. Having boundaries means being aware of the boundaries that are already there. You already have boundaries. A boundary is simply "Yes, please; no, thank you." "I like this. I don't like this." That's all boundaries are. But once you become aware of your boundaries, then you can kind of draw a map. So that you can say like, "Hey, here's what I like, here's what I don't like." And PS, there's another step. And this is the part that I think a lot of people don't understand is they think as soon as they've said, "Hey, here's where my landmine is, please don't step on that," they've done their job, right? Nope, nope. It is your job to patrol that and to let them know what will happen, what will be the consequence if they step there. So one of the things that I had to learn was, instead of saying, "Hey, here's my boundary, please keep it safe for me." I had to say, "Here's what I'm going to do if this behavior continues," and I had to learn that with my kids. And I had to learn that with adults, pretty much everyone in my life. So it's the difference between, you know, saying, "It really hurts my feelings when you call me that name. Please don't call me that name anymore." And, "If you say that, again, I'm leaving, I'm going to go out for a walk. And I'm going to cool off, and then we'll talk about this later." One is way more effective than the other and way more self-responsible. Because you're saying, "I recognize that this is my land mine. Okay? I'm not I'm not expecting you to know where it is. You know, you're a tourist here. I can't expect you to give tours of the, you know, landmine area. Like, that's my job."
Victoria Davis 24:26
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I completely agree, too, and I think there's an element that ties into that is people who typically violate your boundaries, you know, it's having the expectation that that will happen. Because once we set a boundary doesn't mean that even if you say, Okay, I set the boundary and if you do that, this is what I'm going to do but don't expect them to never violate it right? Occasionally they will. And then the second part, which has been the thing that I've had to work on, over and over and over is to not take offense, when they do that, and then fixate on what they did versus realizing: that's how they usually are in the situation. Blow it off.
Adrienne MacIain 25:10
Yeah. It's nothing personal. It's not about you. It's about them. Yeah. And so you know, when you set your boundary and you know, patrol your boundary again, it's not about them. It's about you. So it's not hurting their feelings or being mean to them. It's just saying, "This is what I need for me. And you do what you do. And I'm going to do what I need to do to keep myself safe. Otherwise, we can't be in relationship. Like, that's just not gonna happen."
Victoria Davis 25:37
Yeah. So true. So huge.
Adrienne MacIain 25:39
And sometimes you do end up having to just completely cut off contact with someone because they just keep trampling your boundaries, and it gets exhausting. And you're like, this is not worth it to me.
Victoria Davis 25:48
Yeah, right. Exactly. No, exactly. And I think I'll take that even one of you with that with the spiritual side of things with God, I think that has there's a lot of Scripture that talks about reconciliation, right. Okay. But this is what I think is wrong, is that a lot of people say what God's God's heart is for reconciliation. Yes, it is. But he also talks about coming with the sword to divide mother against son, and whatever. And so I think that, we take that out of context. Because, again, it goes back to just because you're in my circle, or you're in my family, does not require us to have constant contact, and for me to listen to what you're saying, or take your advice. And that I had to learn that the hard way, because I thought, "You are my parental figure. So of course, you have my best interest," and then getting really confused and not knowing what was loving what was truth and what was out of their own, you know, agenda. So yeah.
Adrienne MacIain 26:48
So that is a great segue to the next question, which is: who needs to hear this story?
Victoria Davis 26:54
Well, it's such a good question, man. I feel like, everyone, but I feel like, in particular, individuals who really struggle with, you know, knowing that they're worthy, and knowing that they're good enough. And knowing that yes, actions can, you know, take you off course a little bit by making negative bad choices, but it doesn't define you. And it's, and I think that those of us who really struggle with wanting to people-please, and wanting to, you know, being a recovering perfectionist, but knowing that there's peace and joy and rest in the process available now. And that freedom is available now. And it doesn't have to be you know, perfect. You can walk it out. I think it's it's those of us who feel like, we're constantly under pressure, and it's usually coming from us, you know, not other people. And so just those people who really need to know that 1. they're not alone and 2. that you can breathe and enjoy the journey.
Adrienne MacIain 28:03
Absolutely. So what what do you think--the question is, what is the main message or takeaway, but I want to I want to rephrase this for you a little bit. You have someone in front of you who is really struggling. They feel like they've been trying and trying and trying to be perfect. Everybody's looking up to them, everyone's expecting them to be perfect. They're getting all these messages that they're not good enough, and that their best efforts are not good enough. What do you want to say, right to that person's face?
Victoria Davis 28:37
Yeah, I would just say that, you know, one of the biggest things because I've been in that space, you know, in particular, and so I get that person. I think that what I would say to that person's face, you know, "You're always going to have people who support you and people who don't. No matter what, you will always have people who are against you, and who are for you. And it will get more intense as you get more public. And, and it'll get more intense as you share your truth. And, but knowing that, when you have, you know, spoken your truth, and you know, in your heart that it's right, and you stand on it, then having the expectation that chaos is going to be there is actually the best indicator of you're on the right path. And that sounds crazy, but it really means that, you know, when you speak truth, it will always offend and so it's not about you, you know, pleasing this group of people or that group of people are you looking or doing, you know, looking at our way or being a certain way it has to do with you really knowing who you are, what you're meant to do in this life. You know what our identity is who God says you And what you feel in your heart is right and staying on course with that, even if you fall in front of people, even if you make a mistake, you know, I think it's about picking yourself back up and looking at that obstacle as the thing to run through and over and not turn any other way. Because there's so much breakthrough with every obstacle that you overcome. And I think that's what I would say is start with, you know, just try to try to not look at what's missing or what's wrong, or the distraction, like comments as distractions, but look at, you know, where you're going, and who's going to be there to guide you in the right way and focus on that, you know, so that's what I would say at least to start.
Adrienne MacIain 30:50
Yeah, absolutely. So we're gonna shift gears a little bit, I'm going to do a little exercise. So I want you to close your eyes for a moment. Okay. So I waved my magic wand. Everything that you want, has just come true. All your wishes, all your dreams, all your hopes, everything you desire has now come to pass. So I want you to take a moment to just look around your ideal life, and describe it for me. Where are you? What do you see, smell, hear taste, touch?
Victoria Davis 31:29
Okay, with eyes open, or with eyes closed?
Adrienne MacIain 31:30
Do it either way. Whatever works best for you.
Victoria Davis 31:33
So I would say, yeah, that's then really what my ideal life looks like, it's funny, is living from a place of imagination. Sounds kind of funny. But I'm really believing that everything is possible. Because I've had that I've had personal radical shifts, where, like I said, you know, breakthroughs and radical healings, and then meeting the love of my life and all this stuff. So I think that my ideal life really looks like 1. walking with Him to be able to help others experience radical breakthrough and transformation. And that can look like in the details, right, that still appear. But in the details that literally looks like we both write, and so writing, specifically, to help, you know, create that impact. But really, my heart has always been to help women truly understand kind of, like I was saying at the beginning, their identity and that they matter and what that looks like, though, under in God's eyes, and but then how to practically live that out every single day, how to become, you know, a warrior, and things like that. And so, ideally, you know, what that looks like, is taking my coaching and speaking career into a space where I get to do that consistently, and love on people, and even if it's small, intimate settings and gatherings. And so...
Adrienne MacIain 33:08
what does that look like? What is that space? Describe it for me?
Victoria Davis 33:12
Mmm. I'm not really sure what you mean.
Adrienne MacIain 33:15
Okay. So, again, close your eyes. We're trying to get you out of your head and into your heart space here. So what I want you to do is just look around, you're in this ideal space, everything you want is here now. So look around. Are you writing somewhere? Are you... what space are you in? Are you working with someone? What is it that you're doing to create meaning in this ideal world?
Victoria Davis 33:39
I mean, yeah, so essentially, what that is, is it would be like me and my partner, creating content together like we already do. That's ideal for me.
Adrienne MacIain 33:52
So do you work in a in a space together? Do you have an office together in this world?
Victoria Davis 33:59
Not at the moment, but that would be ideal.
Adrienne MacIain 34:02
Okay. So then your in your office with your partner. You guys are working together. What do you see? What's around you? What is this space look like?
Victoria Davis 34:12
It's definitely one that is--we both like really Victorian-era things. So like darker, richer, like the French provincial colors, those like rich roses with like black and kind of really, those kind of elements. We like those types of things. And we both you know, it's being in the cold and having nature surrounding you. And so that type of an environment, you know, to where we can get up and go outside whenever consistently. Having that space to just take in and having a home that is kind of in a that's winterized, essentially, to where like the colder climate and so access to that, so that is one element for sure.
Adrienne MacIain 35:04
So looking out--you have a window in this room looking out. You see trees? What is the nature look like that you're seeing outside?
Victoria Davis 35:13
Yeah, absolutely tons of green when it's summer and spring, and lots of trees, mountains here and their nature trails, you know, changing of the leaves the beautiful golden red and orange leaves and it's vibrant and access to lakes or streams that aren't too far away and for sure, that's ideal.
Adrienne MacIain 35:35
Okay, so I want you to go outside for a minute. You're just gonna walk outside and smell the smell of the nature there. What does it smell like?
Unknown Speaker 35:45
For me my favorite sense, especially when it's the in that moment is like the pine you know, I love that scent. I love the rich earthy forest the sense of pine and yeah, and I like the the embers and smoke and things like that. I really love those smells beautiful.
Adrienne MacIain 36:09
So you can smell there's a there's a fire inside so you can smell that that the woods burning. Pine smell you smell that smell of leaves, kind of going back into the dirt.
Victoria Davis 36:20
Adrienne MacIain 36:21
What do you hear?
Victoria Davis 36:26
Most likely, I mean, what I'm hearing in this space right now is definitely wind crackling through the leaves. A lot of times I'm pretty sensitive to forest creatures. So you know, hearing and sensing squirrels or deer or chipmunks or things like that. Just running fire, you know, being around and surrounded by that for sure.
Adrienne MacIain 36:46
Is there any kind of music that seems to go with the feeling that this gives you?
Victoria Davis 36:52
For me, music, it would always be some sort of modern classical music, I like that, or sort of like an ambient, ethereal instrumental sound.
Adrienne MacIain 37:07
I'm hearing a viola does that resonate with you?
Victoria Davis 37:11
I mean, I do love violas and violins and strings...
Adrienne MacIain 37:16
I don't know where that came from. I just thought I would share.
Victoria Davis 37:17
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. I love I mean, all of those types of things, especially because I like to listen to a lot of Victorian era inspired and soundtrack music. So.
Adrienne MacIain 37:29
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So just, I'm gonna take you to one more place. So I want you to be working with a client. And I want you to see on this woman's face, that she's just had a breakthrough, that she now believes that miracles are possible, that you've opened that space for her. And I want you to just feel what that feels like. [pause] And what do you see?
Victoria Davis 38:06
I mean, I definitely see someone who's, you know, eyes usually kind of open up wide and get that realization that it's possible for them to and and I typically, I mean, I'm sensing myself having an overwhelming feeling of warmth, and, you know, like, my heart wants to jump outside of my chest and all with laughter and tears of joy and things like that. And typically, that's, I mean, that's what I would see for her to, you know, is that realization that, like you just said, when these things are possible, then you basically see like, the chains of doubt, and fear and insecurity or uncertainty falling off.
Adrienne MacIain 38:54
Yeah, so I'm hearing a lot of joy, I'm hearing peace. I'm hearing a lot of just groundedness and feeling really at home like you belong here in this space. Are there any other emotions you want to point out that you're experiencing in this ideal space?
Victoria Davis 39:14
I think that those are the main ones. Yeah, I think that victory is not necessarily an emotion, but you know, that feeling of security in the sense that it's, it's right, you know, so that's kind of being connected to that for sure.
Adrienne MacIain 39:31
All right, open your eyes. So I would love for you to find yourself that piece of classical music like modern classical music, that really goes with that scene for you. And let yourself listen to that once a day. I usually do it in the morning and just have those feelings again and see that space so that you can really start to--I know you're a manifester, so this will be really obvious for you, what I'm doing. Sometimes I have to spell it out for people. But it sounds like you're already very much on the right track. I think if you keep doing all the things that you're doing, you will inevitably kind of end up in this space. But sometimes it really helps to remind yourself that you can already be there. Now.
Victoria Davis 40:17
Yeah, you're right. Yeah. That's really good. Yeah, you're totally right. And I would just, it's funny, Adrienne, had we done this six months to a year ago, it would be totally different.
Adrienne MacIain 40:27
Yeah. Funny, right?
Victoria Davis 40:28
It all unlocked and accelerated. And I'm looking around thinking "This is my life now." So yeah.
Adrienne MacIain 40:34
And by the way, my husband and I eventually want to move to Sweden. So I totally hear you on the, you know, colder outdoors warmer inside.
Victoria Davis 40:44
Yeah. I love that. Yeah.
Adrienne MacIain 40:49
I hear you. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for joining me today. Is there anything else you want the audience to know, before you tell them where to find you? know, I
Victoria Davis 40:59
No, I mean, it's just, it just was super fun to get to connect with you and chat with you and kind of hear your heart, your story and how you, you know, love to walk through these things with people and just help people stories out of people. I love that. I think it's really fun. I think maybe one of the one things that I would the one thing that I would say to people is just you haven't missed it.
Adrienne MacIain 41:22
Yeah, I love that.
Victoria Davis 41:25
And I think that, you know, whether you believe in God or not, I mean, there's always there's always more, and you're not going to miss it.
Adrienne MacIain 41:35
I always say to people, you know, a higher power can be you like, you can believe in something beyond yourself, right? Your ego self without having to call it God if that's uncomfortable for you, for whatever reason. But I think it's so important for us as beings to be able to connect with the greater everything that is, you know, and recognize that we do have a direct connection to everyone and everything.
Victoria Davis 42:03
Yeah, I mean, I definitely, like we just talked about, I've manifested my spirit and I've been in that space, and it's wild and amazing. And there totally is that, so yes. Yeah. So that's pretty much it that I would share.
Adrienne MacIain 42:19
So where can people find you?
Victoria Davis 42:22
Yes. So what the people can just find me on https://victoriapdavis.com/home easy. Facebook, the same exact thing. Yeah, that's essentially what I've got going on. And I'm in the same process as you right now is with working with the publisher and writing the books so all those things will be out soon.
Adrienne MacIain 42:42
Fantastic! Well, I can't read wait to read it.
Victoria Davis 42:44
Yeah, yeah. We'll have to share each other's once we get them out.
Adrienne MacIain 42:49
Absolutely. Yeah. So great. Thank you so much for joining me.
Victoria Davis 42:53
Thank you. Have a good day.
Adrienne MacIain 42:56
You too. Bye.