Spin a Challenge Into Gold w/ Rhianna Basore

We’ve all heard the fairytale where a princess spins straw into gold - ready to meet the princess? When the mess that was 2020 upended the grand plans of celebrated actor and director Rhianna Basore (@selftrustfund), she didn’t throw herself a pity party. Instead, she transformed limitation into imagination. The results exceeded everyone’s expectations.

Highlight Reel

1:30 The bottom drops out

6:00 There’s magic here

8:30 Creativity through constraint

10:00 Telling my personal story

12:30 Follow your fun

14:50 Creativity as a life-force

17:30 Trust the timing of the universe

21:30 Everything you wish is true

28:20 Faith, trust, flow

Learn more: https://selftrustfund.com/

Adrienne MacIain 0:01

Hey everyone, welcome to the That's Aloud podcast. Here we are for Season Four - whoohoo! Can't believe we made it four seasons. This is wonderful. So today we have such an incredibly special guest, I'm so honored to have you. Rhianna Basore, please introduce yourself.

Rhianna Basore 0:19

Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be here. So I am an international award-winning actor, director, filmmaker and writer, as well as a financial empowerment coach for creatives. It is my deep passion to help other creatives fund their best creative life while living the life of their dreams.

Adrienne MacIain 0:40

All things I'm so passionate about. So I am so delighted to have you here. So I was really just so flattered that she agreed to be here for the first episode of Season Four, because Season Four is all about, we're calling it Hindsight 2020. And now Hindsight 2020, of course, goes a long way in terms of explaining what we do here. We all look back, and everything's so clear in that rearview mirror, isn't it? But I think finally we're starting to get enough distance on the year 2020 that we can start looking at what were the biggest obstacles we overcame, and what were the greatest gifts that we received specifically from that unprecedented year? So I just want to ask you that first question of what was the greatest obstacle you overcame in the year 2020?

Rhianna Basore 1:35

Yeah, it's such a powerful question, because for me 2020 was a transformative year. I started the beginning of 2020 coming off the high of directing my first show. My friend had been developing a one person clowning show for over a year, I was heavily involved as a consultant on that, and then when the time came he asked me to direct it. And it was my first opportunity to direct a theater play. And it was a huge success. We had a blast, the audience response was amazing. We toured it all around the United States. And in fact were able to headline the Marfa Fringe in Marfa, Texas, which was a highlight of my career. But the thing I was the most excited about was that we had been invited to present it in Iceland, in Reykjavik. So I, being the good money coach that I am, I got all my financial ducks in a row. I had it all scheduled out - a beautiful Scandinavian pad, little artist's nook, right across from volcanic hot springs day spa. It was walkable to our venue, I could not wait. And then COVID happened. And Americans were uninvited from the island of Iceland, for understandable reasons. But for me, it was the thing I had pinned all of my 2020 dreams on, was this opportunity to perform, to see my show be performed in Iceland. And I don't really believe that things can't be turned into gold. So I put my dream hat on. And I said, Well, what if we could make it into a movie? They're offering us to perform it on Zoom, but I'm not such a fan of Zoom plays, I find that the translation isn't as rich as the piece that I created. So I approached my collaborator and said, What do you think about making it into a movie? And he was so on board, he completely recreated it as a screenplay. We shot it over four weekends in a closet at his house. We did the editing, we submitted it two weeks ahead of the deadline. And it opened to even better acclaim than the theater play had received, as well as being seen by thousands of people all over the world. And so for me, it was truly evidence that you can spin a challenge into gold.

Adrienne MacIain 4:02

Absolutely. So, I love that story for so many reasons. I want to go back a little bit to that moment where everything, like, the ground just opens up beneath you. It's like you've got all these plans, things are finally starting to work for you. You know, I think so many people out there can relate to that moment where it's like things are finally starting to get traction, you're finally starting to go someplace, and then all of a sudden the bottom drops out. And it just feels so unfair.

Rhianna Basore 4:33


Adrienne MacIain 4:34

And it's so easy in that moment, to just get angry, and get bitter, and to throw yourself a pity party. But it's that moment where you have that beautiful opportunity to do something completely new and unprecedented, and go in a totally new direction. So, you know, you said you, Oh, I just came up with this idea of filming it. But where do you think was that mental shift for you where you were like, Okay, get over yourself, we still need to do something here, and decided to just take it in a new direction?

Rhianna Basore 5:17

It's such a great question. And I don't know if I can pinpoint one source. But I can say that I had the incredible support of my creative community as we were all navigating the early months of the COVID challenge. I also at that time was a yoga teacher, so I was missing my yoga community, which was a daily practice for me. And so I really welcomed re-embracing my creative community as a daily interaction. And so I was in a number of conversations and regular meeting groups, as well as re-navigating 'The Artist's Way' by Julia Cameron,

Adrienne MacIain 5:57

One of my favorites!

Rhianna Basore 5:57

which is a classic. Yes! But between you and me, I had never officially finished it. So I was like, #COVIDgoals. So I was sort of double duty-ing with the holding space with creative people and doing 'The Artist's Way.' And it allowed me to tap into that internal space of limitless possibility. And so it really, in the way that I believe these things happened, it was a download from the universe. I had this image and it kept coming, and it kept coming, and it kept getting funnier and funnier. And I just thought, I think there's magic here. I will add that we had made a small trailer for a film version of the play we were thinking about doing the year before, so it wasn't completely out of the blue. But definitely going zero to movie was an unexpected turn.

Adrienne MacIain 6:54

And you say you filmed it in a closet? Like most people, you know, most theater people are trying to get out of the closet.

Rhianna Basore 7:01

Isn't that the truth! That I learned doing live theater is that the constraints are the freedom.

Adrienne MacIain 7:12


Rhianna Basore 7:13

And while sometimes you really want to beat your head against the walls of the box of the piece that you're working on, it really is, once you find the infinite possibility within the limitation, that you understand you can do anything. So for me, I I should clarify that this piece was about a Trump voter who later ends up - spoiler alert - as the President of United States. So that's his journey, is from a sort of going-into-the-underworld-because-he-voted-for-Trump misadventure ending up as the President of the United States. It's an underdog story. And so I had this image of him escaping his handlers, because he is a clowning character so he does not do things the right way or say them the right way, and that he had gone into a closet at the White House, and he was giving his State of the Union address, thinking himself to be FDR. But of course he is this out of touch, tone deaf, kind of dinosaur from an imagined past. And it just really delighted me to think of the joy and the boyish enthusiasm that my actor would bring to that scenario.

Adrienne MacIain 8:29

That's wonderful. I could not agree more that one of the best ways to actually tap into your creativity is to put constraints on things. When you say to someone, Hey, draw me a picture, they'll look at you like, Do what now? If you say, draw a picture of a cute animal, well, now we have constraints. And now your imagination starts thinking about animals that you think are cute, and what can I draw? Oh, well, I'm pretty good at puppies. All right, I'm gonna go with a puppy. But people kind of freeze up when you give them too much creative space to run around in. Like little kids, we actually like having edges. We like to know where the boundaries are. And so it can be really freeing, actually, to give yourself constraints. One of the most common things you do in writing workshops and things is that the leader will give you constraints. Well, you have to have this included, and you can't have this included, and so that helps you to come up with something. So if you're struggling creatively, if you ever find yourself stuck, instead of opening things up sometimes it's actually really helpful to narrow things down and give yourself constraints.

Rhianna Basore 9:37

I think such a great example of that, because I really agree, is the hot lava game. Do you remember that from when you were a kid and you can't touch the floor? There's no outcome to the rules. No one's going to be the winner. You just can't be on the floor. And it's the most joyful, silly-making, laugh-inducing game that has no rules except for don't touch the floor.

Adrienne MacIain 10:00

Exactly, absolutely. So let's jump into what do you think is the story the world isn't getting?

Rhianna Basore 10:11

I actually am working on writing my first memoir right now. And that's also been one of my COVID creative projects. I've always been a very avid reader, especially of memoirs, people telling their personal story. And I realized, maybe as a result of this project, that I didn't share my personal story. That I, as a performer, interpreted other people's, and as a director-filmmaker, I further interpreted other people's performance and their story, and that I hadn't really told my story. And so I have been actively exploring that for the past, let's say nine months. And I think it's still coming into view. But I think that it really has to do with my journey as a seeker. I've always been in pursuit of something I haven't experienced, that I didn't know, that transcends what I am as a human. And more than that it has taken these different forms in my life, I find it as a thread through everything that I do. But I would like to share my personal journey as a human on this planet, in order to both own my voice, but also inspire others to take more risks. I've taken a lot of risks in my life, both as a human and as a creative, and I haven't always told people all the bumps and all the highs of that journey. So I have a feeling that's where the story lies.

Adrienne MacIain 11:43

Absolutely. So what would you say is the main message or takeaway from your story, your personal story?

Rhianna Basore 11:52

Well, I think it's love is in everything. I've been thinking a lot recently about how creativity is so aligned with flow, is so aligned with the life-force, is so aligned with abundance. If you believe in that we have chi in eastern philosophies, or Kundalini energy. But really, for me, that word comes down to the experience of love, both inward and outward. Sensations of love flows through everything that I do, and I know that when I aligned with that, it really comes out okay.

Adrienne MacIain 12:31

Absolutely. So a message of love, of course, is for everyone, absolutely everyone. But who do you think really needs to hear your story? You said something about people who maybe aren't taking the risks that they need to take in their lives? What do you think might be holding those people back?

Rhianna Basore 12:50

I work with something in my coaching business, but I call them money monsters, which are the voices that we've internalized, both from our family of origin and our culture, that tell us that we can have what we want. And so it keeps people very safe. You know, you think of Piglet in Winnie the Pooh. It's like, what could be out there? The heffalumps and woozles. But really, like a monster under your bed, if you turn on the light, often there's nothing there. And through that work, I've really realized that it's fear. People are afraid of what could be, of what might be. But when you take the steps to move forward and you pursue those things, not only do those things not happen, but sometimes really amazing, cool things happen. Like your movie debuts in Reykjavik that you never knew you were going to make a month ago. And so for those people, I really would love to offer the inspiration of bravery. I am perhaps more brave than I feel because people always hear my stories and they say, I can't believe you thought to do that, or I can't believe you did that. And I'm like, well, it kind of sounded fun. And for me, that's a full sentence.

Adrienne MacIain 14:08

Absolutely. Follow your fun. That is such great advice. Follow your joy. Follow your fun, find what feeds you, and be that example for the world. That, yes, you can follow your joy, and you can follow your fun, and still create wonderful, amazing things in the world.

Rhianna Basore 14:26

Yeah, absolutely. And be rewarded for it. Right? We have this myth that we have to leave joy and play and laughter in childhood. But I have found as an adult, that the more I embrace those things the more I'm rewarded, emotionally, financially and physically. People are looking to fill up with what makes them happy, so if you're offering what makes you happy, it's gonna probably work out for both of you.

Adrienne MacIain 14:52

Absolutely. Alright, so I want to ask you how did this journey... so we'll go back to 2020 for a moment... how did this journey change you?

Rhianna Basore 15:04

I definitely can't go back to the way I was before. That is one of the things that I'm actually extremely appreciative of the past year for is that it, it showed me how my life was amazing, and served me so well, and was so beautiful. And yet because I had to stop, and I had to listen, and I had to be really still... I'm a very social person, I like a very busy schedule, I want to go out and do all the things with all the people and hear about it from everybody... and I didn't leave my house for months at a time, right? Wasn't seeing anyone that wasn't already in my house. And in that stillness, I realized that there were parts of me I kept too busy to remember to feed. And luckily for me, that was a reconnecting to creativity as a life force, not as something I make money at, or something that I do to get attention or approval, or to connect with my social group. It is something that is intrinsic to who I am, and the way that I do everything that I do. And from tapping into that, I realized that I can't go back to a place where I starve myself of expression. I think I felt that if I could segment my life enough, I could check all the boxes, rather than having it be a dance that I do in all things in all aspects of my life.

Adrienne MacIain 16:37

That is resonating with me so much. Sorry, I'm tearing up a little bit. I'm gonna take a drink here.

Rhianna Basore 16:41

Of course.

Adrienne MacIain 16:44

You've just really described my experience so much in in 2020. And I agree, I can't ever go back. I mean, not that I would really want to but you know, there have been some, some tough times recently especially, you know, pressures to do things differently. And I've had to really strongly just say no. I remember what it was like to deny this part of myself, and to prioritize other things than creation. And I'm just not doing it anymore.

Rhianna Basore 17:20

And you are rewarded for that. Right? That's the other thing is it's like, not only is this a deal breaker for me, I will never go back, but I see there is fruit growing in that orchard as well.

Adrienne MacIain 17:34

Absolutely. And it may not be coming as quickly as you want or in the way that you are looking for it to come.

Rhianna Basore 17:42

Yes, patience is a virtue, I'm afraid.

Adrienne MacIain 17:46

And also open mindedness, looking for the opportunities in places that you wouldn't necessarily expect them.

Rhianna Basore 17:53

And I think that's so important too because, as creatives, we're so good at imagining that we lock into one image of what it's going to look like. And it's really served me to open my vision to allow something else to flow through. Okay, it's not a play. It's a movie. I want to go to Iceland. Okay, well it's going to be in a couple of years. Iceland is not going anywhere.

Adrienne MacIain 18:18


Rhianna Basore 18:20

But it will be there when the time is right, and maybe the circumstances will be even better.

Adrienne MacIain 18:26

Yeah, that is one thing. I think I've just learned to trust the timing of the universe so much. We had, my husband and I had, this brilliant business idea a couple of years ago. And we were like, This is gonna be amazing! And we got into debt, trying to build this business, and then it fell apart. And it was a sort of Airbnb-related business. And now we look at it and go, Oh, my God, I'm so glad that's not what we're doing right now. Can you imagine how screwed we would be now? It felt like the end of the world at the time, like you said, that bottom dropped out, and it was like, Oh, my God, I put all my eggs into this basket. Well, you know, important lesson for the future too - don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Rhianna Basore 19:20

Yes, that is an important lesson for the future. Yes.

Adrienne MacIain 19:24

But at the same time, looking back, I go, Oh, thank you, thank you, universe. Thank you, Bobby, which is our word for, you know, God source, whatever you want to call it. Thank you, Bobby, for looking out for us! You know, we didn't see that coming, but you did.

Rhianna Basore 19:41

That's right.

Adrienne MacIain 19:42

Yeah. So I've just really learned to believe that I, you know, as you're saying, Iceland's not going anywhere. I tell myself that about Sweden all the time. So we have lots of plans about Sweden and France. And I keep telling myself, They're not going anywhere. They're still going to be there. It's going to happen when it's supposed to to happen.

Rhianna Basore 20:01

Yeah, that's right. I have actually, it's funny you should bring up France. I was performing in Paris several years ago, and we had a coda that we had put on that trip, on that project, we were going to go through Spain, and then head over to Morocco. And I just decided at the last minute the timing wasn't right, I couldn't do it. And I, between you and me and your listeners, I've regretted it ever since. I feel like I backed away from something that I really wanted in a moment of fear. And so I am planning when I can go and do a similar trip. But I know it will be more fulfilling for me, because there was something energetically in me and in the universe that was like, Not time yet. Good idea, not time yet.

Adrienne MacIain 20:47

And you got to listen to that. You have to listen to your gut, you've got to trust your instincts on those things. Absolutely

Rhianna Basore 20:53

Absolutely true. And I also have found that the biggest heartbreaks of my life, it was only with time, I understand they were the biggest gifts. And sometimes that's because I've spun it into gold, like I did with my movie. But sometimes it's because there were things coming, like your story, that I couldn't have planned for. I couldn't have known. But because there was this unknown thing that was going to happen, it was the very best thing. The thing I'd set my heart on didn't work out.

Adrienne MacIain 21:26

Yeah. And of course, I didn't even have to answer my usual follow up question there, which is, what was the greatest gift of 2020, because you just gave it to us. But I want to go back a little bit. So this is usually about the time when I transition into an exercise that I like to do. And you were talking about kind of keeping an open mind of your sort of ideal vision. And so what I'd like to do is just have you close your eyes for a moment, okay? And I'm going to wave my little magic wand over here. And everything that you deeply desire has just come to pass. Here, in present time, right now, everything you wish is true. And so I want you to, in your mind, sort of open your eyes, you don't have to actually open them because I find it easier to keep your eyes closed for this part so you can keep visioning. But open your eyes and look around this perfect, beautiful life that now exists. Like you're waking up in this ideal world and just tell me what you see.

Rhianna Basore 22:27

I definitely see what I call my poet cottage, which is the garden... I wouldn't say small building, but older style 1920s 1930s cottage looking home that I own. It has a music room and a library and a room for me to write a beautiful kitchen filled with light, gorgeous garden outside. And I have all day to open all the windows and play my music and create stories in that space. And then soon I will be traveling to work on the film set for my movie, while I'm meeting with my collaborators to work on our next written project. But when I opened my eyes, I am grounded in that safety and beauty of home knowing that my web of connection extends outwards.

Adrienne MacIain 23:20

Beautiful. So I want you to imagine you you go into that kitchen that's just full of light. And there's food just sitting out there for you. Food has just been provided to you. And I want you to just take a moment and tell me what you smell what you see. just describe this for me.

Rhianna Basore 23:42

Well, it definitely smells like fresh baked baguette. And I see a really beautiful creamy wedge of brie cheese. And strawberries.

Adrienne MacIain 23:53

Oui, madame!

Rhianna Basore 23:57

And the whole kitchen smells like lavender because there's lavender on the window sill. And there's a little pup at my feet, barking.

Adrienne MacIain 24:09

What does it look like?

Rhianna Basore 24:10

It's a spaniel. A King Charles mix. Yes. So, auburn, curly fur and fuzzy toes and a little black nose.

Adrienne MacIain 24:23

Cute. Alright, so like you said, you kind of go through your day and you go out you collaborate. You're having all this wonderful stuff happen. And then something just unexpectedly wonderful happens today. Just pure grace from heaven, nothing you particularly deserved or were working hard toward, it just fell into your lap. How are you going to celebrate?

Rhianna Basore 24:52

I think I would celebrate by sitting in my garden and watching nature, watching the butterflies, listening to the birds, seeing the flowers bob in the wind. I might enjoy a glass of something, tea or champagne or something. And whoever was around, of course, would be there, but we would just be still and quiet. And a little bit sunbaked. You know that kind of like lazy easiness, when you're just a little bit sunbaked.

Adrienne MacIain 25:24


And so now I want you to think about, you know what in this world is really bringing you great meaning and giving you deep satisfaction? And I want you to imagine that you're interacting with someone who's really been profoundly affected by your work. And they're just telling you how much this has changed their life, how much you have really helped them. Maybe it's a coaching client, maybe it's someone who has seen your work, but I just want you to see on their face how sincere they are, and how moved they are, and how grateful they are to you and the gift that you brought to them. And what does that feel like?

Rhianna Basore 26:17

It feels like connection. And it feels like there's a thread from my heart to their heart that allows a communication on a deeper level than I think I realized. And also, they realize. They have a surprise that I have also when they're talking to me. I think we recognize each other.

Adrienne MacIain 26:40

Beautiful. So I want you to come back inside, into kind of your happy place, whatever it is inside your house that's like, This is my really comfy spot. And there's some music playing. And what kind of music is it?

Rhianna Basore 26:55

Oh, it's classical music, soft and beautiful.

Adrienne MacIain 27:00

Lovely. And so you've had this beautiful, perfect day, everything starting to kind of wind down, you're probably going to be heading to bed soon. What's the last thing you want to do?

Rhianna Basore 27:16

I think I really believe in rituals. So I think that it would be an evening ritual. Checking in with the moon, maybe. Lighting a candle and setting an intention. Just really centering into my heart space, and thanking the day, and the universe, and all the good gifts. And visualizing the good things that will come the next day.

Adrienne MacIain 27:42

And so what is that intention that you're going to set?

Rhianna Basore 27:47

I think the intention is to have a very similar day to the one I had that day.

Adrienne MacIain 27:55


Rhianna Basore 27:56

I need no more than that, I think.

Adrienne MacIain 27:59

Absolutely. All right, on that note, let's open up your eyes. Alright, how did that feel?

Rhianna Basore 28:07

Yeah, it felt so lovely. It's, like, restful, you know, to go to such a beautiful place and enjoy the day so purely.

Adrienne MacIain 28:20

Absolutely. So I know that one of the things that you do is that you help people to have a clearer vision for their own future, and, you know, be able to kind of look back from that place and say, Well, how did I get here? How did I get from where I am now to that place that I just imagined? What commitments do I need to make to myself? What habits do I need to create? And I imagine you're already well-versed in this, you probably have those commitments in place, and you probably have those habits already in place. But is there anything else that you can think of that you might want to, that you might need to shift slightly, just a micro-shift, toward that vision that you just had?

Rhianna Basore 29:06

Yes. I think that there is and you're right, I have a million plans and a million projects and a million collaborators. So that is true. But one of the things that has come up for me, I would say in the last three or four months and I felt the shift in my vision, is a sense that everything is of its own nature. There was nothing more that I needed to do, except for to be myself and take the action in front of me. There was a trust in the unfolding that I do have very much, but it was so locked in to that person that I think that I could really work on shifting into feeling that trust on deeper and more rooted levels.

Adrienne MacIain 29:59

Yeah. So faith, trust, flow.

Rhianna Basore 30:05

Definitely flow. I really struggle with the idea of surrender, it was brought to me, you know, from my yoga gurus and teachers, and it's always a word that to me felt passive, and even inactive in a way that, you know, big ol fire energy over here, you know, I didn't like that. I was I feel powerless when I'm not taking action on the things that matter to me. And I've since realized that it's about being in flow. It's not about not doing it's like how when you're swimming, sometimes you just ride the current for a while. Because there are forces that are doing things on your behalf that you can align with. But then also you can use the energy of your own being and propel yourself in certain directions.

Adrienne MacIain 30:54

What I've always felt is like, life is actually sort of a river. It's like, okay, it's flowing in this direction, right? And you can float in that direction, or you can spend a bunch of energy paddling and paddling and paddling. And either you're trying to go upstream, which isn't gonna work.

Rhianna Basore 31:11

Unless you're a salmon

Adrienne MacIain 31:12

Right. Like, you're just gonna exhaust yourself. Right? Or you're just going back and forth. You're going back and forth. And you're just kind of filling that space and filling that air, rather than just flowing with the current. I found this more and more to be true, that the harder I fight against something the more powerful it becomes. What we resist persists.

Rhianna Basore 31:39

Yeah, I think that is true. Especially I have found when it's a belief in our inside ourselves. When we're resisting something that we believe, even though we don't want to, it just turns into a Gorgon at the gates, it gets massive.

Adrienne MacIain 31:56

It really does. Yeah. And so I find, the more we can just focus on flowing toward where we want to be, and like you said, just being open to the timing of that, being open to what that's going to look like. But just, you know, keep it directionally correct. Keep making those micro-shifts to say directionally correct.

Rhianna Basore 32:25

You know, I had a history teacher once tell me, I found it fascinating, that the Vikings didn't have a real navigational system. They didn't have a map for any of those things. But it was a very alpha society, so they had a really great party time. Yay, let's go out conquer the world. And then they just load up on their boats and take off into the night. And they didn't know where they were going. They didn't know how they were going to get home. They were just out for the adventure. And they probably use some star navigation. I don't know, I haven't researched that part. But the bravery of just like, Where is the ocean going to take me? What's next? What's out there? I think, I think that's an energy that really serves

Adrienne MacIain 33:10

Well, you said fire energy, right?

Rhianna Basore 33:11

Hashtag #Leo.

Adrienne MacIain 33:14


Rhianna Basore 33:15

There you go. Yes, adventure fire!

Adrienne MacIain 33:18

A lot of Leo up in here, a lot of fire going on.

Absolutely. Yeah, I think we fire signs especially, we're just adventurers at heart.

Rhianna Basore 33:29

We are because we're just like, What's new and exciting? Feed me, feed me, nurture me. And it can be very quick-start like, obviously, Aries is the most quick-start. But I have noticed that as soon as I figure something out, I'm ready for the next thing. The idea of boredom is my biggest nightmare. And I just think about that fire, you got to keep feeding that fire, man, and you got to keep it not a forest fire. You have to have some containers for your fire, you know, so you can actually serve and warm people, not burn them up. But it's also about stoking the fire, and keeping the inspiration going, and keeping the challenges at a level that feel enjoyable. And I really love being a fire sign. And I love other fire signs too because we're always like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! Always sparking off each other.

Adrienne MacIain 34:24

Yeah, and innovation. You know, there's just that innovative energy, like you said, and I think we, like you said, as soon as we understand something, or we kind of get the hang of it we're like, Okay, what's next? Yeah, I got that.

Rhianna Basore 34:36

And alchemy too. The other thing I'm... because that is so true, what you just said, and also that we transform things into magic. And that's something that I thought everyone could do, but I have learned in recent years is a special skill for fire signs is that we take ordinary and turn it into supernatural to extraordinary. Right? We should A movie in a closet that is has an international debut. What? Earth signs don't think of that. Love you earth signs.

Adrienne MacIain 35:07

Yeah, and we need those earth signs. You know, we need those earth signs to keep us grounded.

Rhianna Basore 35:13

They'll keep us on budget and on time.

Adrienne MacIain 35:15

Exactly. But that's the thing. Everyone has their gift. And as soon as you sit there and start mooning over somebody else's gift, and envying their gift, and discounting your own gifts, that is such a profoundly ungracious, ungrateful attitude toward your own gifts.

Rhianna Basore 35:39

And it's one of the reasons I've actually re-gotten interested in astrology and horoscopes. I, you know, I had my stint as a teenager, and I've come back into it in recent years because there's space for all of us under the sky. And all of us have our purpose. And I joked about earth signs, but I actually have a lot of earth in my chart, which is why I'm able to take those visionary projects start-to-finish. And I'm so grateful for that. I have very little air, so I always have a lot of air people around me because they're going to communicate for me. I'm articulate, but I get in, I get out. Like, I'm not chatty, chatty, chatty, chatty. And so I just, I feel like it is so amazing to tap into your unique strength, because it is needed, and then allow other people to shine, because that's why there's the collective, right?

Adrienne MacIain 36:32

Absolutely. I couldn't have said it better. And I'd love to just talk a little bit now about what you're working on, and how the audience can find you.

Rhianna Basore 36:43

Yes, thank you so much. So as a creative, I am finishing my first screenplay. My creative collaborator and I met in an acting class in May. And we just hit it off and started to write a web series together. And you can check that out on Instagram. It's called In The Zoom Room. And it's a comedy of two very misbehaving ladies, we absolutely have a blast making it. And based on the success and the response of that we're actually working on our first screenplay, which we hope to finish in the next month. So my creative juices are flowing in new, exciting ways that I can't wait to see what happens next. In my coaching business, you can follow me on my website, selftrustfund.com. And that's because I really found as creatives we needed to build up the self-trust, to know that the funds were coming, to build that creative Trust Fund for ourselves. And I'll be offering a series of workshops every month. They're bringing back 2020, so they're only $20 to attend. And you can register for that on my website, selftrustfund.com

Adrienne MacIain 37:58

Obviously, I'm a fan of wordplay and clever titles, so I see what you did there. Bravo.

Rhianna Basore 38:04

Like attracts like, my darling.

Adrienne MacIain 38:07

Yes, absolutely. Law of attraction is true. Here we are. We are proof. Just beautiful synchronicity here. I'm so glad that the universe brought me to you, and I really look forward to collaborating with you in lots of ways in the future. So thank you so much for being here today. Is there anything else you'd like to say to the audience before we wrap up?

Rhianna Basore 38:28

No. It was an absolute pleasure to chat with you about what the gifts of last year were and how we're all going to bring them into the future. I can't wait to see what you and I do next.

Adrienne MacIain 38:40


Transcribed by Rebecca MacIain

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