"This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius" - for real this time! This new age promises unprecedented harmony and connection for those who are awake, aware, and willing to do the work of fully understanding themselves and their connection to the universe. Today on this much-needed holiday, astrologer and energy psychologist, Tam Veilleux is here to help you understand your own role in the grand awakening that has already begun.
Adrienne MacIain 0:01
Hey everyone, welcome to the That's Aloud podcast. I'm your hostess Adrienne MacIain, PhD. And today we are here with Tam Veilleux. She has this lovely French name that I get to say: Veilleux. So Tam, please introduce yourself.
Tam Veilleux 0:17
Well, hello Adrienne. Did I say that well?
Adrienne MacIain 0:20
Tam Veilleux 0:21
Okay, I am Tam and Tam I am and I am really an artist, an author, and a transformational coach. And I like to say I live in love in the beautiful state of Maine. I feel very blessed. And my jam is really transformation through astrology and energy psychology.
Adrienne MacIain 0:42
Fantastic. So I'm gonna ask you my new question, which I'm very excited about.
Tam Veilleux 0:49
Adrienne MacIain 0:50
What story is the world not getting?
Tam Veilleux 0:54
Oh, that's a good one. So, being that you're a PhD, probably in psychology or something? If I repeat the question, that means I'm delaying the answer, right?
Adrienne MacIain 1:03
Actually, my PhD is in theater.
Tam Veilleux 1:05
Adrienne MacIain 1:05
You're totally fine. I'm not here to dissect you, I'm just here to help you tell stories.
Tam Veilleux 1:12
I know. What story, so I actually really think that the world is not understanding the story of astrology. And I, I really have this... astrology is, like, taboo for people. And I don't get it. It's like, if you say that you follow astrology, they get this, like, (gasp). I, you know, that's, they don't understand it. They can't connect the dots. They don't know how to make it relative to them. And some people go so far as to say, Oh, that's for witches. So I think it's a story that needs needs a little more attention. And I'd love to see it made more applicable to people, honestly.
Adrienne MacIain 2:02
Astrology: it's not just for witches anymore.
Tam Veilleux 2:04
It's, oh my gosh, I'm gonna steal that line.
Adrienne MacIain 2:07
It's yours. It's all yours.
Tam Veilleux 2:09
It's not just for witches is true. It is. Sure it's an old, old system, ancient. But really, it's really brought, been brought, thank you internet, into the forefront more and more. But still, people don't really understand it. They don't know really how to apply it. And as far as astrologers go, and I'm not really, I'm not a master astrologer, I'm a student of astrology, there's a lot of asterisks, you get involved. And it can be really, really confusing. But people shouldn't be so afraid of it psychologically. And really, at a very concrete level, there's so much to be gained by understanding who you are at a cellular level because of where the planets were when you were born.
Adrienne MacIain 3:04
So tell us where your journey with astrology begins?
Tam Veilleux 3:09
Oh, gosh, my personal journey probably began as a kid, you know, not like you are conscious of it when you're six or seven or eight years old. But I remember my parents chatting about it. And they were like, you know, Oh, Tam, that little Virgo? Isn't she's silly because she did this or that. And and they would poke at my brother, the Leo, and they would talk about each other. Oh, my dad's a Sagittarian. Hmm, I wonder what that means? And my mom was a Taurus, and I knew that she was being stubborn and fixed in her thinking. And they will talk like that. So it was in my awareness. But, you know, probably in my 20s, I started reading horoscopes like every other 20 year old does. And by the time I was connecting the spiritual dots for myself, like early 30s, late 20s, early 30s, and I was really growing spiritually. And I started realizing how I feel that our great maker created a plan that he wanted all of us to be able to see. So he gave us numbers, and he gave us symbols, and he gave us planets. And he gave us the pieces to the puzzle, but I was realizing you can really just fit it all together. I really, really started deep-diving into astrology probably just three years ago, but when I go, I go deep. I went about three years ago when I literally, and talk about witches, I had an accidental psychic reading by somebody who basically said There's a book that wants to be born through you. And she downloaded this 90 minutes of information about what the book would look like, how it would be, and that God wanted me to have the project - now go!
Adrienne MacIain 4:55
Wow, why doesn't that happen to me?
Tam Veilleux 5:01
Had you been asking for something like that?
Adrienne MacIain 5:03
It's just so funny, you know, I would just absolutely love that. I would love that. It's so, you know, I love the idea of an accidental psychic reading. I had Willow Bradner on here who calls herself the accidental psychic.
Tam Veilleux 5:14
Oh, no kidding?
Adrienne MacIain 5:14
And so yeah, so I just love that idea of like, sometimes you just, that just happens. That happened for me yesterday, when I was talking to my husband, and all of a sudden I was like, Oh, there's a message for you! Hold on, hold on. I have no idea where this is coming from, but I'm just gonna spit it out. And I just started talking and talking and talking, and he was like, Yes, that solves my problem. Thank you. And I was like, You're welcome? Thank you, whoever that was. When we have the mystery, you know, that which is too big to be named, we call it Bobbi. It's just our little term. Like, Bobbi has a message for you.
Tam Veilleux 5:54
I love that, Bobbi, that's great. Well, Bobbi had a message for me that day. You know, at the time that that moment happened, I'm in this meeting with my like, I thought I was going for a business meeting literally. And then she started pouring out what she knew, and she had been told, and I asked questions, and got answers. And anyway, I put my face in my hands and cried, like, this is too big. It's astrology. I'm not an astrologer. But I knew that there was a lot of truth inside of astrology. I knew that. I knew, you know, I had had a natal chart reading before, so I knew there was some good there. But as I was making the drive home, it was a good half hour, 45 minutes for me to get home, all of the dots started literally connecting, in that I started remembering my parents talking to me. I started remembering all these little psychic hits that I had gotten over the years, but hadn't pulled together. And then, in the most recent days prior to that meeting, I remember pulling over in front of the new home we were going to buy, I pulled over and I had looked up at the sky and I said, Wow, what a big, beautiful sky. Like, what a big sky and you know, and I had sat there and just admired the sky. And during the psychic reading, she goes, Oh, it's called Big Sky. I was like, Okay, well, another dot connected. And so then I proceeded to have a second natal chart reading that would be fresher to really remind me, are you sure all of this makes sense for me? So what I ended up discovering, and I really want to tie this to your listeners, I had a second natal chart by a different reader so that I could see if I could get some different insight, you know, different perspectives, different astrologers. So, I had a reading and what I realized this reading, this reader told me that my career house was is in the sign of Sagittarius, which is the ninth house of publishing. I was meant to be in publishing, I was meant to be an author - my Chiron, my sacred wound, is in the sign of Gemini, communication and speaking and learning and teaching. Like, Oh, my gosh, this all makes sense. My super Virgo, that I am, was really near the mid-heaven of public life, with the Sagittarian publishing. It was all just, I could see that I really was meant to do this. So to connect it to your readers, like, your chart will tell you all of the problems you may have potentially, and all of the answers that you could choose. It's all there if you really will take the time to look and try to understand.
Adrienne MacIain 8:52
Tam Veilleux 8:53
It's more than a sun sign. What are you What's your sun sign?
Adrienne MacIain 8:56
So I'm a Sagittarius.
Tam Veilleux 8:58
Okay. What's that mean to you?
Adrienne MacIain 9:02
So to me, it means that I'm very adventurous. I really love to learn and grow and change. I like newness. I have almost an obsession with novelty, shall we say? I have a hard time doing the same thing over and over again. I get very easily bored with that and frustrated with that. Yeah.
Tam Veilleux 9:27
That's interesting. So that feels to me like the anti-Virgo, anti-Sagittarian Sagittarian. Most Sagittarians, well, I say struggle with structure. They're either very fixed in structure and having form or they're the opposite, and they don't want structure. So you're that don't want structure.
Adrienne MacIain 9:47
I'm that don't want structure. But actually, that's interesting, because what I have found is that when I do have a structure that feels good to me, that I've created, I can actually relax into that routine, and it feels so freeing to kind of know what's gonna go. So it's like, I'm not reinventing the wheel every day when I wake up and being like, what should I be doing now? What should I be doing with myself? I can spend all day just ruminating over, like, What's the best way for me to be spending my time today? Right? If I don't have structure. So as I've gotten older, I've realized that structure actually is freeing, and is my friend. But it has to be a structure that I came up with, that works for me. And so I have my morning routine that kind of sets me up for my whole day, and I figured out that I can't, the way the way I schedule things is I just schedule chunks of time to focus on one thing. Not this is the time when you're going to produce this thing. Right? But it's like this is this is the energy that you're going to focus during this time.
Tam Veilleux 10:58
Sure, and using the energies is so important, and knowing what the energies are, and that's like the whole thing about everybody understanding astrology. If everybody really fully understood about Saturn in Aquarius, which is what we went through this summer, it was Saturn in Capricorn and then Saturn in Aquarius. Saturn is about boundaries and restrictions. I like to call it the cosmic thumb. In Aquarius, groups of people, so think masks, think quarantine, social distancing. Aquarius is the sign of big groups of people and humanity, really. So it was very limiting on us. And now, you know, we're Saturn in Capricorn again, but coming in December we're going to go back into Saturn and Jupiter and Pluto inside of Aquarius. We're really heading into the Age of Aquarius. And it's super-important for people to be willing to look at What does that mean for us? Because, you know, I'm finding, I don't know about your group of people, but there's a lot of fear. People think what we're in right now is what we're in forever, and this is the new normal. And I keep telling people that, you know, it's no secret, we won the game already. We're really just watching a movie unfold. We've passed the test, and it's all going to be okay. So hang in there, keep your eye on the prize. And when I say I, I don't mean this I, I mean your eye, keep your eye on the prize, and know what your vision is. We're in 2020, so hold the vision strong, right? And it's going to be okay. It's a little rough ride, you know.
Adrienne MacIain 12:39
I've always felt like, you know, 2020 meant this is the time when we're starting to see things as they really are.
Tam Veilleux 12:46
Adrienne MacIain 12:47
Sometimes that's not pleasant. Sometimes you've been avoiding looking at something because you did not want to see that thing.
Tam Veilleux 12:54
Crystal clear vision, you're right about that. And it's also about holding the vision for yourself, you know, micro and macro for yourself and for the world, holding your vision. And when you look at 2020 numerically, two plus two is four, four is the number of form and structure and foundation, so we're really setting a foundation in 2020. But there's also kind of a little hidden meaning in it, because when you take a two and you put it next to a two, you have the number 22, and 22 is the number of the master builder and peacekeeper. So this is about really finding harmony, and building something harmonious, building something that really the whole world can count on as we move through this decade. Because it's a whole decade of Venus and Mars doing their thing and trying to bring balance to that sacred feminine and sacred masculine all decade. So let's set up the decade really well. 2020, masterpiece keeper, and master builder, and set a foundation that's incredible.
Adrienne MacIain 14:05
So what are some tools that can help people do that?
Tam Veilleux 14:09
Visioning, you mean? Yeah, visioning. So for me, I always really, really encourage people to start at the foundation with values. What energetic values or priorities do you want to bring forward? When I do a workshop with groups I'll always say What do you want to carry into this year or this decade? And some will say, Better communication. And somebody else will say, I want a clean planet. Great. Those are things that matter for a lot of people, so we throw in all of that. But I tell my clients, like, five things that you'll live by every day, that you can make all of your decisions by. Pick five priorities, and that becomes your filter for answering every question. That's the number one tool I love to use is Know Your Priorities. In my world, the second step is break through the BS, break through the belief systems that will keep you from making progress toward your plan. And for me, Emotional Freedom Technique, tapping. Are you familiar?
Adrienne MacIain 15:19
Yep. Can you describe it for those who might not be?
Tam Veilleux 15:22
Absolutely. Emotional Freedom Technique is an energy psychology protocol that works to literally disrupt emotional energy inside of the body. So it's the physical process of tapping on meridian systems. And for those who are watching the YouTube, I'm tapping on my head, on the radio, on my head, between your eyes, near your temple, but on the side of your eyes, and under your eye. I go directly down to the chest, and I skip some of the facial ones, to the collarbone. And then I tap my wrists, and just repeat that cycle. And what you're doing is disrupting the energy field that might be carrying a negative emotion or sometimes carrying a positive emotion. I walk around my house tapping in joyful things for five and 10 minutes at a time to amplify myself and manage me. So yeah, EFT to break through the BS that's giving you a hard time.
Adrienne MacIain 16:18
So how do you catch those belief systems? How do you catch that BS?
Tam Veilleux 16:22
Oh, boy, well, there's a few ways to do it, but the obvious one is to just catch the voice. Like when when you go to write an email and you send it and you realize you forgot something, you go, Oh, you dum dum head. I'm a very polite person, so dum dum head works. And you and you hear that voice and you go, Wait, I'm really not, I'm not stupid, I'm not dumb. Stop, delete that. Let's go do it, let's find out what that's about. That's a really basic fast way, to literally hear it, catch it and stop it. But the really deeper way, I always recommend that people make what I call a hit list. And if you actually put an S in front of it, you know what the list is about. It's a list that's made up of crap: conflict, resistance, anxiety and problems. It's crap. And it's your hit list. So you actually make a timeline from pre-birth to current. So you could do a decade at a time. We know through neuroscience and epigenetics that you are having inside of your cellular structure everything from your parents, your grandparents, their grandparents for seven generations deep. And so you get the early information, what was going on in mom and dad's life before I was born, see if there's anything to heal there. And then earliest memories, or stories you were told about yourself as a child, that might have been crappy. Conflict, resistance, anxiety, or problems. And so I tell my customers Make that list. And I've seen lists that are eight and 12 pages long. Make that list and every day make peace with one story. Literally take Emotional Freedom Technique and address the story, remove the pain from it, get neutral, and then cultivate how you'd like your life to be emotionally.
Adrienne MacIain 18:15
Beautiful. I love that. I also find it a really powerful technique to rewrite the ending to our trauma stories so you can insert yourself as an adult into a situation when you were a child or maybe just even at a time when you were less aware or powerful, or whatever it is, then you are now. Insert yourself into that and change the ending for that version of yourself.
Tam Veilleux 18:40
Yes, yeah, I like to do that kind of work with my clients. I studied NLP, I'm certified in neuro linguistic programming. That kind of work is really really powerful. My newest tool that I use, I'm, I have some customers that have been with me long term, they'll go away for a while, they'll come back and then they'll like, Help me next level. So when I want to next level somebody, I look at the birth chart for astrology. And I'll find out where's their cosmic thumb? Where is there a disconnect between Mars and Venus? Or, you know, why might there be an addiction to something. So I look through the chart to find out where there are specific patterns that could be addressed. And that's another way to uplevel the healing, if you will. It's all about transformation. I think we're here on this planet to learn and to grow. I had no plan of going into publishing and astrology, I had no plan for that. I thought I was gonna grow up and be an artist. And, you know, that didn't happen. Well, it kind of did. It took took me till I was 50. But yeah, I now am a published artist. So I guess it did happen.
Adrienne MacIain 19:52
There you go. So this is wonderful, I love all of this stuff. I just want to ask you one more question about this before we kind of dive into a fun exercise that I think you'll really enjoy. What do you think is the most important thing for everyone to know or understand about astrology and how it can work for them in their lives?
Tam Veilleux 20:15
The most important thing that they can know? Well, I actually think there's probably six really important things. But I would like people to know, ultimately, it's not just your sun sign. It's not just that you are a Sagittarian and I am a Virgo. Really, you want to look at your rising sign and your moon sign. Those are definitely three important points. So the sun is who you are at your core. You're a Sagittarian and you love adventure and movements and the anti-structure structure. But your rising sign is the mask that you show, that you wear, the mask that how other people see you. It's your coping mechanisms, so to speak. So do you know your rising sign?
Adrienne MacIain 21:04
Yes, I do. It is Scorpio.
Tam Veilleux 21:06
You're a Scorpio. Very interesting. So I know what I feel about Scorpio, but why don't you tell us about Scorpio.
Adrienne MacIain 21:14
So I think I wore my Scorpio mask for a long time, and it's become less powerful over time as I've become more kind of aware of that and unmasked it. But the Scorpio is that very strong sexual attraction energy for me, where I try to sort of seduce people and control people with that energy. For a long time, that was kind of what I led with, and that was what people saw about me right away and got this strong energy of like, Oh, you know, interesting. I was, you know, big flirt and all that. But it was also this kind of emotional intensity, of this very, like, you know, I have this deep this deep well of emotions. Right? And it was almost like a warning that I would carry around like, Don't upset me. Yeah.
Tam Veilleux 22:10
So the mask is important, because people will, they're going to see the mask first. They might guess you are a Scorpio and you're like, No, I'm totally a Sag. But no, you're showing the planet. So I think it's really important for people to know both of those things. And the moon is about our emotion and how we deal with our emotion. And if you can find out which house all three of these things, the sun, the rising, and the moon sit in, you'll know which area of your life they're most applicable. Now, the rising sign is always at the cusp of the first house, so that's the same all the time. But if you know where your sun is, and if you know where your moon is, that gives you a lot of information to really, really work from. So those are the three key ingredients. I want to spell all six of them, but I'll just stop right there.
Adrienne MacIain 23:03
Do you want to know what my moon sign is?
Tam Veilleux 23:05
Tell me please.
Adrienne MacIain 23:06
I am a Gemini moon.
Tam Veilleux 23:08
Oh, interesting. This is perfect. The whole podcasting thing. Communication, curiosity about other people. And that teaching, because you have that, your skill for coaching and all of that, that's perfect for Gemini. Do you know what house all of these are in?
Adrienne MacIain 23:27
Tam Veilleux 23:29
Find that out. That's your best task.
Adrienne MacIain 23:31
Yeah. But I thought, you know, the thing about Gemini is there is that sort of duality, right? Like, self-conflict?
Tam Veilleux 23:41
Two different ideas.
Adrienne MacIain 23:42
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And so one thing that I have found, I guess, you know, I think of my moon as almost sort of my shadow side, the side of me that it takes a while of knowing me to get to see that. And so I do find that I have a hard time, you know, like, I can talk a blue streak, I can talk to you all day. But then deciding what's the core of my idea, you know, what's the most important thing and editing things down. Man, that is my Achilles heel.
Tam Veilleux 24:13
So even emotionally, you're very much in your head. And I would certainly encourage you to, as much as you can, like, identify that, get down into the heart space and bring it down.
Adrienne MacIain 24:22
Into the heart space.
Tam Veilleux 24:22
But those Geminis do like to live in their head, and then you're Scorpio, which is water and your Sag., which is fire. That's pretty balanced.
Adrienne MacIain 24:29
I got a lot going on. And then I surround myself with Virgos.
Tam Veilleux 24:33
Adrienne MacIain 24:35
Tam Veilleux 24:37
Nice. So, the more you know about yourself, life's little hurdles become a little easier to get over. Oh, yeah. Like, so I'm a Gemini and I'm in my head a lot about my emotions, but I'm trying to be really practical about my emotions. Well, when you know that, now you have something to work with and you can sort of self-help, self-help yourself through this stuff. It's so powerful. There's nothing to be afraid of around astrology. Keep it simple, but learn, keep learning more, find a key word about every single zodiac sign that you can remember. One key word about each of them is a good place to start, you know?
Adrienne MacIain 25:16
Absolutely. So let's take it up to a higher level now. You were talking more about 2020 and what that means for people, but also the Age of Aquarius, and what we're moving into, and that kind of, you know, that base that we're creating here. So, I'm going to take you through an exercise and usually this is a very, you know, sort of personal visualization exercise. Instead, I'm going to ask you to look into what what we're in for as a culture, as a as a humanity. Okay, so I'm gonna have you close your eyes for a moment. So now, I snap my fingers and we are now fully in the Age of Aquarius. We're through all the transition and all the yuckiness and the mukhi trying to hold on to the old and all that. All that's done. We are now fully in what humanity is going to become. Please describe for us what you see.
Tam Veilleux 26:16
Yeah. So, easy to do. Permission to open my eyes.
Adrienne MacIain 26:20
Tam Veilleux 26:21
Awesome. Yeah. So I see us. It's so soft. It's so soft. Like, that's the word that wants to come through. But that's like a... I had a dream two nights ago, and Bobbi spoke to me in my dream. And I'm going to share that because it was all Age of Aquarius. This is very good timing, beautiful Bobbi. The sidewalks, the asphalt on the road was rolling up. It was, like, almost on a crank. It was rolling up and underneath it grass was sprouting. And I was like, What's going on? And Bobbi said, I want to see how well you can take care of the planet. I said Oh, and it was like a five or 10 minute Oh. Like he's basically saying like I'm trusting you guys to do it right. The Age of Aquarius is where everybody cares for everybody. And there'll be very much a reaching out, an extension of ourselves into everybody else, all the time. It's like the silver cords that are very real in the quantum field between you and I are going to really be felt. You're going to know the web for what it is. And there will be, the Age of Aquarius is very much about intuition and I want to say electricity, more like the ethers. I guess I will say the ethers. Aquarius is ruled by Uranus, and that is the planet that rules technology and invisible waves. So intuition is going to be heightened. And we'll all, you know, I will know what you're thinking. You wouldn't have to ask me the question, I would just be able to answer it. But we love each other's voices, so we'll figure out podcasting eventually. Otherwise, it'd be a solo podcast. So technology is going to, like, the ideas are just going to roll out and there will be answers that are going to make the whole feel better. It's not what's good for me, it is what's good for we. And it's going to work. And it's going to be beautiful, and incredible, and so soft. The coming together is really on its way. Not that there won't be rough spots, not that there won't still be evil and bad, but there will be good. There will be a lot of digital stuff, there'll be a lot of AI, and for the better. If we're not having to slug away in a manufacturing or in a job that we didn't really want, we're not having to do that then we can spend time with our intuition and our imagination, creating the next best thing for us. I believe Bobbi wants us to live in joy and peace, and that is the intention of the Age of Aquarius. It's a very friendly time. Lots of gatherings, lots of people together joyfully, in a friendly way, being their best selves possible. It's really a beautiful place to live.
Adrienne MacIain 29:35
Oh, I'm so excited now.
Tam Veilleux 29:37
We should be. It's not a secret. Tell everybody. We passed the test, the Age of Aquarius is the promise that we all made to each other before we came here. It's the high five we gave Bobbi on the other side, you know. Age of Aquarius,
Adrienne MacIain 29:54
But I also think about that message from Bobbi of I want to see how well you can take care of the planet and of each other. So, I hear what you're saying that we've passed the test, but I also think there are additional opportunities coming up to really go deeper into that.
Tam Veilleux 30:17
Yeah, I would believe that, very much so. And I would say, honestly, this decade, the 2020s decade, is our foundational decade. I believe that's where we're going to course-correct, course-correct, course-correct. As we go into the 2030s, now we're talking about, the 30s are really about creativity, creativity, creativity. So you know, we're gonna keep evolving this, and maybe it's going to take 50 years to flesh out, but we're well on our way. We're definitely well on our way The Age of Aquarius gets into its fullness later around 2027, you know, for its fullness, like, it's bigness.
Adrienne MacIain 31:02
So what can, so you said course corrections. What can we all be doing to kind of help those course corrections along, individually and as a group?
Tam Veilleux 31:16
So this is opinions. My intuitive self tells me, when Bobbi whispers, it's what I just said, it's the softness. The key word is it's softer. And if we all can, so it's an interesting point of view that you have, that point of view that it could be rough and bumpy and we're supposed to do more work. I try to teach clients always just see the other side as an interesting point of view. And the more people that take that on board, you and I both know what's going on right now politically. And I keep saying whenever I feel myself get wound up, it's an interesting point of view that they have that point of view. It's not my point of view, but it's their point of view, and it has to be okay. We all have our childhood filter that we're living through. What you saw as a kid looks like this, but what I saw looks like that. And we're never going to see things identically. So if we can just agree that it's interesting, your point of view and mine, I think the Age of Aquarius can be beautiful. There's no need for extremes in my world. There's no need for it. I mean, I have a lot of Libra in my chart, I'm pretty balanced, but it really can work for everybody to just bring in that Libra energy and find balance. It's simply an interesting point of view, and we'll see how it plays out.
Adrienne MacIain 32:38
So what I'm hearing is a lot of softening, softness, letting go of the need to fight,
Tam Veilleux 32:46
Adrienne MacIain 32:46
Stop resisting anything, and just have that beautiful acceptance of what is. I have my perspective, you have your perspective, and just let go of that conflict.
Tam Veilleux 33:01
Exactly. And you know, you've brought up a point of that resistance and that need to fight. We are currently, as we're ending 2020, in case listeners catch this next year, as we're ending 2020 we are in a very difficult period with Mars being inside of Aries. It's currently retrograde at the time that we're recording this, but it will be moving forward again. Mars inside of Aries is nothing but pure aggression, energy, movement, divine masculine. The god of war was Mars. And so we're all feeling super edgy and very, very sharp. And it's externalized. If we're not careful, it's very externalized. Now, Stephen Forrester, the great master astrologer, says every front has a back. So with astrology, Mars is aggressive, but it can also be very passionate. So aggression and passion are two different things, but both are valid and can be used. I'm very passionate about my point of view, but I'm willing to be neutral when we're in a situation that could get aggressive. I'm willing to just neutralize my point of view and just say, Let's agree to disagree for now. It will free up in January, Mars will move out of Aries and move into Taurus, I believe. I believe it's going into Taurus next.
Adrienne MacIain 34:25
And so what will happen in Taurus,
Tam Veilleux 34:27
Well, then the activity, the passion, the aggression will go into Taurus, which rules our what we value. And that can be emotional values, and it can be materialistic values, my house, my money, my things. And so Mars is going to show up there and we have really, really big aspects coming in 2021 around money. There's going to be three different squares in Taurus that're are gonna be big. And with Mars there, I feel that there could be some... we're going to have to be willing to be very Sagittarian and move and shake and experience a little adventure. It's gonna be interesting.
Adrienne MacIain 35:08
So on a more personal level, I want you to envision for a moment yourself in that new space. The meaning that you're creating the people that you're working with. What are some feelings and visions? Maybe sights, smells, sounds. Anything that comes up for you in that New Age of Aquarius that is coming.
Tam Veilleux 35:35
Yeah, I just heard lavender.
Adrienne MacIain 35:39
Tam Veilleux 35:40
Lavender. I think the core of who Tam is will change very little. So it's fun, fresh transformational, that will stay. And really, if I do nothing else on the planet, and I know it's getting stronger, minute by minute, day by day, dream by dream, my connection to Bobbi is ultimately all that matters to me. And I know as I go into the Age of Aquarius, it's me and Bobbi the whole way.
Adrienne MacIain 36:08
Tam Veilleux 36:09
I have a marriage that was made by Bobbi, made in heaven. I have amazing family and friends. I mean, my life is a dream. And I'm fortunate beyond words. But if that all fell away, it's me and Bobbi. So, spirituality, that'll be growing. Neptune inside of Pisces for the next, almost the rest of the decade, asks us to get closer to God. So intuition and dreaming and envisioning what we want next. So I'll be teaching people in my groups and in my VIP retreats, you know, get as close to God as you possibly can. Use that third eye of yours, get intuitive, and lean in. Lean in. Smells, can you smell the coffee and the chocolate? Because that's just, that's my happy smells, and so working with that, and lavender.
Adrienne MacIain 37:06
Ah, I want to share something that's happening for me right now.
Tam Veilleux 37:11
Adrienne MacIain 37:12
Every time you use the word Bobbi in that context, it fills me with this incredible joy. Because that's such a personal thing for me, that I've always used. And when I hear the word God, it has so much baggage, you know, growing up. It's accrued all this stuff that isn't God, like barnacles on a crab. Bobbi, for me, is just something that came to me and so that, just hearing you use that is so wonderful. So I want to really encourage everyone out there to come up with their own name for that energy, that mysterious energy that is beyond explanation. Just come up with a word or a name for that for yourself, and see how powerful that personal connection can feel.
Tam Veilleux 38:06
You brought tears to my eyes. I love it. I am going to snag Bobbi for my household. I am, because Bobbi knows that it doesn't matter what we call him as long as it feels right for us. And you know, I have grand littles, I have three beautiful granddaughters. They're from one year to two and a half years old. And more than anything, I want to teach them how to have Bobbi, without dogma.
Adrienne MacIain 38:29
Tam Veilleux 38:31
And how that, so, I love that you shared that with me, and I can't wait to share this out in the world.
Adrienne MacIain 38:38
Thank you so much. And thank you, Bobbi.
Tam Veilleux 38:40
Yeah, thank you, Bobbi. Thank you, Bobbi.
Adrienne MacIain 38:43
Absolutely. Oh, I feel like we have to end on that note because it's just so beautiful and perfect.
Tam Veilleux 38:49
Adrienne MacIain 38:51
How can the people listening find you, my dear?
Tam Veilleux 38:56
I would love them to find me at, I actually have two websites - choosebiggestchange.com is my coaching And if you want to learn a little bit more about astrology, I have a book that makes it so simple, so easy. It's called theenergyalmanac.com and they can go there.
Adrienne MacIain 39:15
Beautiful. Thank you so much for this. I really needed this today.
Tam Veilleux 39:20
You're welcome and thank you. Feels good.
Transcribed by Rebecca MacIain